We Have Dough!!

March 27, 2008


I have Baker’s Itch. I don’t know where it came from – both in general and tonight – but I just wanted to bake another pumpkin loaf! This time, I made VeggieGirl’s version with no egg, hemp milk and whole wheat pastry flour = DOUGH!! I think the egg made it too suspended last time and the milk, extra pumpkin and finer flour really kept the moisture in tact.

I also sifted the dry ingredients with my grandmother’s antique flour sifter (hope this was sanitary but I don’t really care!). I think that probably helped a lot since my ingredients like to clump.


Veg’s recipe called for pecans, raisins and 1/3 cup maple syrup, which I reduced to half a tablespoon so I could just drizzle it on top if I want a sweeter bread. I left out the mix-ins for the same reason – I’ll add them back if I want more omph! But for a pre-workout snack I like it simple and pumkiny :) I also used brown sugar instead of white.

Here’s mine simplified to just a pumpkin loaf:

  • 2 cups whole wheat pastry flour
  • 1/3 cup brown sugar
  • 2 tsp baking power
  • 1/2 tsp baking soda
  • 1 tsp cinnamon
  • Big pinch allspice
  • 1 cup canned pure pumpkin
  • 1 cup vanilla hemp milk
  • 1 tbsp maple syrup
  • 1 tsp vanilla extract

Preheat oven to 350*. Mix dry ingredients in large bowl. Mix wet (pumpkin, milk, vanilla) in another. Stir both well (sift dry if you’re in the mood). Pour wet into try. Mix well. Pour into 9″x5″ loaf pan coated with cooking spray and bake for 40 minutes.


Check out the doughiness!


My dessert slice (about 140 kcal, 4 grams fiber and 3 grams protein – and super healthy!)


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1 Katie March 27, 2008 at 8:29 pm

Oh now THAT loaf looks great! I LOVE veggie girl’s recipes and I love what you did with this one. Note to self – make this soon! :)


2 BethT March 27, 2008 at 8:34 pm

I will be trying that! Esp. since my pumpkin bread recipe has, I don’t know, 2 cups of sugar and a cup of oil in it :p Which is why I rarely make it!


3 Lindsay March 27, 2008 at 8:42 pm

Yummy! VeggieGirl has great ideas/recipes, doesn’t she?!


4 Romina March 27, 2008 at 8:47 pm

This looks delicious! Must try this very soon. =)

I love that sifter, it’s just like my mom’s.


5 Carrie March 27, 2008 at 8:55 pm

I am a long time reader and first time poster. I check this site every day and love it! I just wanted to say that I am a UW-Madison alumni. I am going to have to cheer for the Badgers, but I hope that your team puts up a good fight. May the best team win!


6 Nadia March 27, 2008 at 9:00 pm

How many servings does the recipe make? Wondering if I could make it into mini loaves and take one to the parents this weekend. My mom loves pumpkin anything :)


7 Caryee March 27, 2008 at 9:46 pm

Hey Kath! A couple questions:

do you taste the allspice in the bread?? I have all the ingredients but that…wondering if it’ll make a difference sans allspice :-)

could i use plain soymilk or skim milk instead of hemp?



8 Rachel March 27, 2008 at 10:06 pm

That bread looks good, but could you explain what you mean by the egg making it too suspended? I thought egg was supposed to add moisture?


9 Liz March 27, 2008 at 11:14 pm

Question for everyone!

What is your opinion or expiriences with living with a boyfriend/fiance before marriage. My boyfriend and I have been together for 4 years and are considering moving in together in the next few months. It’s something I would really like to do but am hesitant because of all the research out there about how couples who live together before marriage are MUCH more likely to get divorced. I think it makes sense to see if you can stand living together before getting married, but I also value our relationship to put it in any detriment…ADVICE/OPINIONS PLEASE!!!!!!!!


10 Cara March 27, 2008 at 11:24 pm

that looks like heaven and it is good for you! WOWO.


11 Jill March 28, 2008 at 1:02 am

Sweet! I am in a baking mood as well lately and just bought a can of pumpkin for some bread, and this is just the loaf I want to make! How large was your dessert slice – or in other words, how many calories per ounce?


12 Jill March 28, 2008 at 1:15 am

One more thing, I’m so glad that you read and walk like I do! My friends see me do it all the time and are like “are you CRAZY!?” I just love to read and love to walk, so why not combine them? Please, sitting on my butt for hours while reading really irritates me!


13 Kammie March 28, 2008 at 3:49 am

Thanks Caryee I have the exact same question!

Oh and could honey be used instead of maple syrup?


14 VeggieGirl March 28, 2008 at 6:27 am

I’m so glad that the recipe worked out so well for you, Kath – I hope you continue to enjoy the pumpkin bread!! :0)


15 goalie30 March 28, 2008 at 6:35 am

My husband and I dated for 2 years and about a year before our wedding, he moved in with me, even though morally/religiously/consciously I didn’t feel really that right about it. However, he was struggling in school while working part-time, and he was scraping together money to pay rent w/ his roommate each month, so rather than have him renew the lease w/ his roomie, whom he’d have to break it early w/ the following spring for our wedding, he moved in with me so he could work less and focus on passing his classes and graduating. We have been married about 9 months now, and things have worked out just fine. We actually got used to each other’s little quirks and money matters a little better before having to go through the stress of planning the wedding and all of that, so everything has fallen into place pretty well for us. I think the stats that are out there for co-habitation before marriage and high divorce rates tend to apply more to live in boyfriends/girlfriends rather than fiance’s. Every person has their own way of living, so I can’t say one thing is right or wrong, but you have to decide would moving in together feel morally/religiously/financially right for you? If you answer no to most of those, then maybe you should hold off until at least you’re engaged and working on the wedding plans…


16 Elizabeth March 28, 2008 at 6:45 am


I’ve been living with my boyfriend for three years, and we have been dating for almost five. I LOVE IT. It has really helped us to know each other better and has forced us to make sure that we keep up our “own” lives and activities…because we live together, we both have learned about when the other needs personal space and we have been able to better maintain our relationships with our other friends, I think because we aren’t trying to spend every waking moment together or plan who’s sleeping over at who’s when, etc. We also have learned a lot about each other’s communication and “fighting” habits, so we argue really infrequently and are able to communicate on a much deeper level. We also have figured out how to share housework and it really helped both of us get our finances in shape, as we are planning on getting engaged and buying a house soon. Of course, it has its ups and downs, but I really love living with him and I think it has really made our relationship stronger. Just my humble opinion, I am sure others have had different experiences, some good and some bad, but I thought I would offer my input! :)


17 Sara V March 28, 2008 at 6:46 am


This is just me of course, but I really don’t think I could ever marry someone before actually living with them.
I’m currently living with my bofriend now – we dated for 2 and a half years before moving in together and have now lived together for almost 2 years, and it has been really good for us. You find out SO much about someone when you live together, and I would be terrified not knowing those things until after marriage :)
I am not very religious so that whole aspect didn’t sway my decision at all.


18 caitlin (in FL) March 28, 2008 at 7:28 am

liz- i think it depends on your situation! i am living with my now fiance (dated for five years and moved in two years ago). one thing we did do that was kind of cool was that he lived with me over the summer while we were in college, which was great because we knew it was only was three months and wasnt a huge commitment (he didnt have to sign a lease or something). living my with boyfriend made me REALLY realize i could never live without him and we got engaged!

i think after 4 years you have a pretty good idea of whether or not you want to marry the guy. re: the research that living together before marriage increases divorce, my immediate thought is that people who are poorer are more likely to live together sooner (for financial reasons), and people who are poorer also have greater strains on their relationship. also, people who live together before marriage are probably less religious and therefore more likely to get a divorce if they are unhappy in a marriage.

however, if you have doubts about the relationship long-term, i wouldn’t do it. moving in together to solve a relationship problem is kind of like having a baby to solve an unhappy marriage— all its going to do is make things worse!

i disagree with the other posters about not living together before marriage. i absolutely think that EVERYONE should live together before marriage. marriage is just a piece of paper, and its not going to change how you interact. thus, if you cant stand living with him when you’re dating, the situation is not going to improve when you get married. you learn a LOT about someone by living with them, and i believe knowledge is power.

if you do live together, all i’ve got to say is… PICK YOUR BATTLES! :)

sorry so long!


19 Becky A. March 28, 2008 at 7:30 am

I hope I don’t offend anyone with my answer to your question, but here it goes….I think the statistics about people who live together before marriage having a higher divorce rate can be somewhat explained by the moral/religious values of those people. I would say that the majority of people who don’t beleive that it is “right” for a couple to live together before marriage also don’t beleive in divorce, so therefore they are more likely to stay in a marriage that isn’t working simply because they don’t beleive in divorce, where as those who live together before marriage aren’t as opposed to the idea of divorce.

With that being said, I have lived with my boyfriend of three years for the past year, and I love it. I agree with the previous poster that it eleviates the whole who’s staying at who’s house tonight issue. I also couldn’t imagine marrying someone with out living with them. You might think you know about all their weird habits, but you really don’t until you live together.



20 JENNA March 28, 2008 at 7:46 am

for this bread do you think i could use regular WW flour instead of the pastry WW flour? what is the difference?
thank you


21 PS March 28, 2008 at 7:55 am

I have the same question as Jenna. Since I already have WW flour, I hope I can use that.


22 Kath March 28, 2008 at 7:56 am

Carrie ,
Thanks for reading! GO WILDCATS!! This is all I have to say about the Badgers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMeLFEq58QU

Nadia ,
I do my recipes by weight, but I think it would make about 8-10 servings?

Caryee ,
You can absolutely leave out the allspice and I think soy milk or even skim milk would work just fine.

Rachel ,
I’m not 100% confident in what eggs do to recipes, but my understanding is that egg whites create bubbles to create more of a spongey consistency – like sponge cake? And their proteins coagulate in high temps making the bread firmer (and therefore less doughy). So leaving the egg out made a denser, doughier cake. At least that’s my best guess!

I think you have to do what makes the most sense for your own situation. The husband and I moved in together right after graduation because it made no sense to pay two rents for two apartments. I’m so glad we did – we had a blast! I totally agree with the others who mentioned that the statistics are probably not accurate given the types of people are are more likely to move in/live apart. I wouldn’t worry about statistics – I think if you love someone you’ll have a happy marriage whether or not you live together. Living together is just more fun because you get to share your life together sooner.

Jill ,
Glad to know there’s someone else who “gets” reading and walking!!

I used regular WW flour for my first bread and it was much more bread like and tough. I’m not sure if it was the change of ingredients or the flour that impacted the new texture, but I doubt you’d make a bad bread with WW flour. It might not be as delicate and doughy though.



23 Megan March 28, 2008 at 8:07 am

I really want to try your pumpkin bread recipe too! It looks really good and like you, I LOVE doughy breads. Baking from scratch sometimes scares me, especially things I’ve never tried.


24 mel March 28, 2008 at 8:40 am

I am 22 and have been dating my boyfriend for the last 5 1/2 years. We are getting married in Aug ’09 and Although I would LOVE to live with him, my parents dont want us to. They love him but dont agree that we should live together before marriage and since they still pay my rent until i graduate in May, I have to listen and understand bc I am a full time student and don’t make enough money babysitting and waitressing to fully support myself. he does stay over about 3-4 nights a week and we have learned everything about each other through the years (even annoying habits and snoring! haha) but I have realized he is absolutely the one for me and I can’t wait until we get married and move in together! I have had friends who have moved in with their bf’s and it destroyed their relationships BUT they werent 100 percent committed before so it was a bad decision!! I think everyone has to base their decision on their own wants and needs !!


25 Cat March 28, 2008 at 2:51 pm

I know everyone has pretty much already said this, but I have been with my boyfriend for 2 and a half years, and living with him for a year, and I highly recommend it. I couldn’t imagine waiting until after marriage to learn everything we have learned about each other while living together. He and I now feel that we truly know each other and now are much more confident that our marriage will be successful. But of course, this is not the case for everyone. When it comes down to it, you have to do what makes you feel most comfortable.


26 Shelly March 28, 2008 at 9:57 pm


I made this tonight, and oh my god, delicious! Just sweet enough… the texture was great! I didn’t have any vanilla extract, but have been putting maple extract in my oatmeal lately as a replacement with great results, so I decided to do the same with my pumpkin bread! SO good!


27 Ange March 29, 2008 at 12:33 pm

I totally recommend living with someone beforehand!


28 Liz March 31, 2008 at 2:10 pm

did you calculate nutritionals for the whole loaf? or by the slice. if you know, how many calories are in the entire loaf? thanks! i can’t wait to make this.


29 Kath March 31, 2008 at 3:29 pm

The whole loaf was about 1325 kcal, divided by 700 grams or about 23 kcal per oz.



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