Baby Sips

September 24, 2012

As I mentioned yesterday, last night was tough! But luckily I was able to get both of us snoozing on and off late into morning, so we were pretty well rested for the day.

By the time I had fed Maze again, showered and gotten dressed, it was 11:00! Time for brunch:

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Matt brought home one of our new Apple Cheddar Scuffins and it was all I could think about for breakfast. Scuffins are not my favorite thing on our menu, but THESE scuffins are. Obsessed with the texture and chunks of apple! I ate about 2/3 of that ginormous guy –

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Fruit +  yogurt on the side

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Plus a banana and nut butter. I was starving and made this breakfast + lunch worthy.

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Big cup of decaf!

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Matt and I had big plans for the afternoon.

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Remember Top of the Hops Beer Festival – 2010 and 2011? Wildest day of our year.

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Well with a baby in our lives, we knew it would not be the wild brewfest of year’s past, but we still wanted to go. But the question was what kind of tickets to buy: Designated driver for me? VIP so we could get there early and leave early? We ended up totally lucking out when our friends at the local radio station where we advertise hooked us up with a pair of VIP tickets!!! Problem solved : )

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Waiting in line with coconut water – same plan as 2010!

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Friends!

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I, of course, didn’t drink too much beer (neither did Matt). I had baby sips of a handful of worthy brews that I had not tried before. Our rule was we weren’t allowed to taste anything we had already tasted, which eliminated a lot of options.

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This Bourbon IPA was a huge winner!

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Didn’t care for this pumpkin:

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But this one was good!

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Maze slept for the first 30 minutes or so, and then we headed up to the VIP area where I was thrilled to find a comfy couch on which to feed him!

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I threw on the nursing cover and got to business. I don’t mind nursing in public with a cover at all. It’s kind of liberating to think that you can leave the house with a baby who eats all the time if you just have a place to sit.

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We were more into our son than the beer for a good hour : )  Love all his silly faces!

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Another perk of VIP: free food! Boylan Heights had a full cookout ready to go. Matt and I shared this burger, potato salad, beans and sausage.

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Then we tried the two best beers of the show: both by Heavy Seas! The one on the left was a tripel wit called Letter to Marque – it was fabulous!! Sweet enough for my palate and full bodied. The one on the right was the Plank II – a doppelbock fermented with eucalyptus wood. Also perfect body and alcohol level!

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Matt took over Boba duty when we headed home. What’s interesting is that I had Maze on me for the whole first part and got some smiles, but no comments. When Matt started wearing him, all of these people kept commenting: “Is that a baby in there!?” I think seeing a father wearing a sling was a bit more unusual or something. I joked that he just had a mini keg inside : )

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AnneP bar for the walk home!

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Dinner later that evening was courtesy of Seamane and Rob! When they came over on Friday they brought us some fresh Mona Lisa pasta – spinach flavor – with meat sauce and cheese topping.

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Fresh pasta is so chewy good!!

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We added some squash and peppers to the sauce for more veggie bulk and dove right in.

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Thanks guys!

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Peek-a-boo!!

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1 Allie@LiveLaughEat September 24, 2012 at 9:01 am

OMGSCUFFINS!! I think Maze looks most like Ms. Karen. Do you see the resemblance?!

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2 Erica { EricaDHouse.com } September 24, 2012 at 9:08 am

I *love* the beer button on your baby wrap!

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3 Ashley @ My Food 'N' Fitness Diaries September 24, 2012 at 9:08 am

I can’t help but “awww” at every photo I see of Mazen! I’m glad you guys were able to get out and enjoy the beer festival – what a fun day!

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4 Anele @ Success Along the Weigh September 24, 2012 at 9:08 am

And now I shall be obsessing over those scuffins! YUM! I might have to make some biscuits since I have a random granny smith lying around!

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5 Jeri September 24, 2012 at 9:13 am

You and another friend (@BeerControl on twitter) have me trying new beers. My newest one was Land Shark. For me it was good. I have to compare everything to Bud Light and Corona. That didn’t taste like either of them. The other was 312 at BBW. This whole trying new beers is awesome. Well, except for that El Guapo. Yuck! Bitter, Salty, Nasty.

But not too much beer. Trying to get rid of my gut now. No need to replace it with a beer belly

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6 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 9:16 am

Keep trying new ones!

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7 Amy September 24, 2012 at 9:25 am

Can you please please make a post and/or just comment back regarding your nursing cover? I’d love to see pics though. My little one is 3 weeks today, a friends mom made my nursing cover but it’s not cutting it. Saturday night we were out and I had to feed him and it was an hour long ordeal and I had to literally had to stuff my head into the cover to see him in order to be able to latch him. I’d love some more info, please! =)

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8 KathEats October 8, 2012 at 3:30 pm

It’s from BebeAuLait.com – I really like it!

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9 Susan September 24, 2012 at 9:26 am

I LOVE Hardywood’s Bourbon DIPA. The Food Trucks of Richmond go to Hardywood on Thursday nights – it’s a two for one deal (beer and food trucks)! Be on the lookout for their Farmhouse Pumpkin and Gingerbread Stout – both are awesome! You’ll probably love ‘em :)

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10 Ashley @ Coffee Cake and Cardio September 24, 2012 at 9:27 am

Yummy food Kath!! I love that y’all are so active with Maze. I have so many friends that didn’t leave their house for 3-4 months after having their first child. I think it’s so important to get out!

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11 Melissa September 24, 2012 at 10:27 am

I second this. My daughter went wherever we did. Except for a few minor adjustments, we didn’t change our routine much. To me, she was better behaved when we DID go in public when she was older BECAUSE she was used to it.

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12 Jessie September 24, 2012 at 9:29 am

Oh my gosh, those faces! Such a cutie!

Now that we’re out in the Midwest and have a Great Harvest nearby the the first time, I’ll be looking out for those Scuffins. Apple + Cheese = Baked Good Heaven.

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13 Julie H. of Spinach and Sprinkles September 24, 2012 at 9:29 am

I have truly enjoyed going about life as I normally would (for the most part) with the addition of a baby! It’s a wonderful blessing! Everyone seems so shocked that I still do so much and just bring the blessing everywhere- I enjoy seeing another mama going about life WITH a newborn…. :)

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14 Melody September 24, 2012 at 9:29 am

Love that beer pin! So cute haha! Congrats on your sweet baby :) I love his name!

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15 Sarah September 24, 2012 at 9:30 am

Dads always get way more attention when they have babies. My husband just flew with our 4-month old and got all kind of attention and help I never get!

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16 Brittany September 24, 2012 at 9:33 am

I was born early and I was only 4lbs so I was pretty small. When my mom would walk around the mall holding me and feeding me she would put a blanket over her (no nursing covers back then!). People would come up to her asking if she was hiding a kitten under the blanket!! Then she would move the blanket and people were shocked to see a baby. She was never asked if she had a baby. Always a kitten. So my nickname for as long was kitten!

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17 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 9:57 am

Aww

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18 Kristen September 24, 2012 at 9:35 am

Maze is so cute! He looks just like you!

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19 Justeen September 24, 2012 at 9:37 am

I actually saw you, Matt, and Mazen at Top of the Hops on Saturday! I wanted to say hello, but sometimes I’m a little shy – I must have not had enough beer samples yet :) I LOVED that Bourbon IPA as well! One of my favs of the day.

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20 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 9:57 am

:) Say hi next time!!

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21 Amanda M September 24, 2012 at 9:41 am

My dad used to take me to the grocery store all the time when I was an infant/toddler. My mom just loved the time to herself and didn’t question it. She found out some years later that he took me because he got hit on and flirted with relentlessly when I was there! Men with babies is still a strange sight I guess.

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22 Alicia @ Wanna Be Ina September 24, 2012 at 9:42 am

I am so glad you were able to still enjoy this festival with Mazen! I remember being out to dinner one night when my son was small and a lady coming by the table and shaming me for having a sip of my hubby’s beer when I had an infant to take care of!

That scuffin is speaking my language. Looking forward to some apple picking soon. Does the scuffin have fresh apple or dried?

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23 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 9:56 am

The nerve!!

Fresh apple..

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24 Averie @ Averie Cooks September 24, 2012 at 9:54 am

Love that you’re out living life, just week(s) after your delivery! That’s awesome, Kath! Glad you guys are clearly adapting to life with baby, and just carrying on! Pretty amazing!

The sauce with the squash and peppers looks so good and so does that AnneP Bar!

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25 Maureen @ Organically Mo September 24, 2012 at 9:55 am

APPLE CHEDDAR?!?! WOWZA!!! That sounds so good, as do the beers that you enjoyed!

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26 Susan H. @ The Food Allergy Chronicles September 24, 2012 at 10:02 am

The Scuffin looks so delectable…as did your pasta dinner! I wish I had one of those wraps when my boys were young…they look a patch better than what was available at the time! You guys both look so cute with Mazen strapped to you!

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27 Rachel September 24, 2012 at 10:05 am

awwwww!! His face is just too cute :D Glad you guys were able to get out and enjoy some beer :)

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28 Holly P. @ A Year in Wichita September 24, 2012 at 10:05 am

I hit up a beerfest this weekend, too. Though, you did a MUCH better job documenting. And posting in a timely manner. Hopefully I get my done in the next couple of days. :) I love that you and Matt are not sacrificing your social life, rather, just adjusting what you do. I seriously hope to be just like that when my husband and I start a family. Also, those pictures of Maze’s face are so cute! He’s already looking more grown up!

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29 Katie @ Peace Love & Oats September 24, 2012 at 10:05 am

Oooo that pasta does look amazing! And what a great event, haha I can see that getting pretty crazy without a baby in tow!

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30 Laura @ Sprint 2 the Table September 24, 2012 at 10:15 am

I want to try that Dogfish SO badly!!! I had the Yuengling Oktoberfest this weekend. It was good, but a little light for my taste.

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31 Melissa September 24, 2012 at 10:19 am

I’m not a mother myself, nor do I have much knowledge on breast feeding, however, I felt compelled to pose a question I’ve been pondering and maybe I missed something, but how are you able to nurse immediately after consuming alcohol?

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32 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 11:10 am

So long as its just a little bit (ie one drink or less) my doctor said its fine.

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33 Ella September 25, 2012 at 3:52 am

And if one has some food to go with the little drink it should not be a problem at all. “Il faut manger pour boire”, the French know it well.

Those delicious super-healthy carbs are so mouthwatering!
Up here we are hit by a heavy low(no)-carbs wave and I just don’t get it…
Pasta&veggies, what a wow! Some this way, please :)

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34 Sarah September 25, 2012 at 12:25 am

The amount of alcohol that actually gets through to the milk is very tiny, so as Kath and her doctor say, a small amount of alcohol is fine.

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35 Kelsey September 24, 2012 at 10:26 am

First of all.. love your blog…
I have a question about the beer and breastfeeding. I was always under the impression that you could really only drink very minimally while breastfeeding. How do you know that Maze is not getting any of the alcohol through your breast milk? Are you testing the milk with those strips?
This is an all honest question, I am not asking this in a judgemental way, I am honestly curious because if I can drink with my next little bundle I would love it!!
So, what exactly is your process for knowing your not drinking too much?

Thanks!
Kelsey

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36 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 11:05 am

The guidelines I have been told are one drink at a time. I probably had less than that here because I just had tiny sips of a handful of beers. **Please consult with your doctor**

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37 Kelsey September 24, 2012 at 11:44 am

Thanks for the response… that makes sense.

Looks like you guys had a blast!

Kelsey

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38 Ella September 25, 2012 at 4:06 am

In the Old Continent we say that beer helps with milk production. You will not believe me, but we had (low-alcohol) home-made beer for the new moms in the hospital fridge where my kids were born here in Finland!

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39 Anna Kate September 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm

What does that mean exactly? One drink at a time? You’re basically dispensing medical advice here, and that can be interpreted many different ways. One drink an hour, three hours, a day?

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40 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 3:44 pm

I am not telling other people what to do – only relaying what information was passed on to me

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41 Ani September 25, 2012 at 4:13 pm

How would anyone drink two beers at a time? You mean just stay away from double-fisting and you’re fine to nurse?

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42 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 4:21 pm

2 beers in one sitting

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43 Sarah September 25, 2012 at 12:29 am

The amount of alcohol that makes it into the milk is the same percentage that is in the mother’s bloodstream, so one drink at a time, especially with food, etc., is just fine. One rule of thumb that I’ve heard is “if you’re sober enough to drive, you’re sober enough to breastfeed.” There’s really no need to buy anything to test the milk as long as you exercise restraint like Kath is doing. (BTW Kath, I like your approach – quality over quanity. :) Choose your drink well, and you can get a lot of enjoyment out of a small serving. :) )

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44 Jody September 24, 2012 at 10:26 am

You need to check out the Heavy Seas Alehouse restaurant and brewery next time you visit Baltimore! They do tours.

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45 Morgan @ moments of mmm September 24, 2012 at 10:27 am

That’s funny how people inquired if there was a baby on Matt’s chest. What else would a wrap be holding?! People are interesting :)

The beers all look so tasty! I can’t wait for our Oktoberfest in Phoenix. It’s only 8:30 am here and beer sounds pretty nice.

Enjoy your day!

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46 Susan E September 24, 2012 at 10:43 am

Love your posts Kath. I also love that even when there is a precious baby in the picture that you can still get out and about and have fun. I love the baby wearing and wish I did more of that 9 yrs ago when my first baby was born. I just had the graco one that is in the front but didn’t look like a wrap or scarf that I much prefer and I think I would want one that I can still bf in it and not have to take it off. :-) Yes, isn’t it great that you can take your food and baby with you and feed wherever you are and no warming of bottles or anything is the best. :)

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47 Erin September 24, 2012 at 10:52 am

awwwwwwwww, you have a STINKIN cute baby! I love that burping picture where you’re squishing his cheeks to support his head. I love it when they’re so groggy/full from eating and they’re so so sweet. congratulations again. I am done having kids, but thanks for letting me relive those special moments vicariously. Thanks for even posting, I can not imagine doing all that you do with a newborn. Those first weeks/months are so tough, but you’re doing great. Hang in there :-) It sounds like you’re enjoying things . Parenthood suits the two of you well. Cheers

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48 Kathleen Ojo @ Onward; Inward September 24, 2012 at 10:52 am

Looks like a fun day! I love baby carriers – it’s soooo nice to be able to strap on the little one go about your business :-)

I have a question (my apologies if you’ve addressed this before) about your opinion on drinking while breastfeeding. I’ve read such mixed opinions! It’s fine in moderation; it should be avoided entirely; pump and dump; alcohol leaves your breastmilk when it leaves your bloodstream, so pumping and dumping is useless… I’m confused! I do enjoy a small glass of wine in the evenings, usually after my last feeding of the night (baby girl is 8 weeks old) but it honestly does make me nervous. I’m not normally a nervous mama and I don’t like the feeling! You’re obviously okay with small amounts of alcohol, so I’m just curious about the research on which you base that decision. Thanks! Have a great week!

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49 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 11:16 am

All of the lactation consultants I have spoken with say it’s fine in moderation and not to pump and dump because you’re right about it leaving the breast milk. I think it’s important to remember just to use good judgement. if you can’t feel any effects then you’re probably within the moderation window. One lactation consultant even told me she recommends a drink to help mom De-stress during the fussy evening hours.

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50 Claire September 24, 2012 at 11:45 am

The funny thing, based on that advice, means I can’t drink at ALL while breastfeeding! After 9 months of no alcohol while pregnant, the first beer I tried postpartum (like, a third of a small glass of my husband’s celebratory homebrew) went straight to my head and it made me feel so dizzy! So for me I knew that I couldn’t risk drinking and nursing since my baby was (and still is) a super-frequent nurser (nursing every two hours or more frequently for the first 5 months). And especially when my baby was so young (there’s new research out there that now recommends waiting to do any drinking until 12 weeks after your baby is born, so their liver can develop more and be able to process any alcohol that may make it into their bloodstream) I didn’t want to risk it. You must have a high tolerance level, I couldn’t manage a whole beer (especially those high-alcohol content microbrews!) even now at 10 months out without feeling buzzed! But I’m not a huge drinker, despite the fact that my husband is a pretty good homebrewer :) so I don’t really miss it at all.

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51 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 12:22 pm

i try to have food too, which helps :)

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52 Kathleen Ojo @ Onward; Inward September 24, 2012 at 12:20 pm

Thanks! I’ve been going by how I feel – I never drink until I get that buzzed feeling, only a glass to relax (and it really does help me fall asleep easier in the evening). I usually don’t second guess my parenting instincts, but it’s hard when you hear so much mixed information! I really appreciate your input :-)

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53 Alicia September 24, 2012 at 12:26 pm

I’ve always been told that if you’re safe to drive you’re safe to nurse.

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54 Anna September 25, 2012 at 7:18 am

Kathleen, I think you do it the “right” way – you drink AFTER your baby’s last feed for the night! Moderation is key, but also timing your drinks so that there is considerable time between your last drink and your baby”s next feed.

I’m actually quite stunned Kath, that you drink (small amounts, but it seems to be a frequent occurrence – aka habit!) so often, and it seems that you feed almost immediately after/during a drink!! Hardly seems like “moderation” or responsible drinking to me!! Is alcohol REALLY that much of a crucial part of your lifestyle?! I am seriously concerned! We’re talking about your tiny baby’s brain development here!

Perhaps I’ve wasted my opinion here, as this will probably be moderated, but hopefully you will have at least read it, and considered it Kath, as this is a genuine concern, not just a “troll” comment!

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55 Sue September 25, 2012 at 9:42 am

I agree Anna – why take any chances at all? There is so much conflicting advice out there that the only completely safe thing to do is abstain. Surely that isn’t such a hardship when you have a little life to protect?

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56 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 10:02 am

That reasoning only makes sense if you think a life is going to be ruined by a little drinking… For the 100th time, we are talking SMALL amounts! At this beer festival I had I think 3-4 tastes/sips before feeding him – that hardly even affected my blood, much less the milk. Beer is not hard liquor. After he was done (and I had a good hour+ before the next feeding) I had maybe 4-5 more sips. SIPS not drinks!!! Tasting alcohol is not the same as guzzling it.

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57 Jaspreet September 25, 2012 at 11:34 am

Kath, I’m a big fan of yours. I love reading about your daily life, your food, and of course Baby Mazen!

So, with a huge amount of respect for you and your work, I do wonder why you frequently get so defensive in your comments. Defensiveness will not help you or your baby. While I understand why you might be getting defensive about your drinking, as a reader I find it a little off-putting.

Your readers have a LOT of expertise–dozens of women who have had children themselves (I have 3 of my own) and several who have medical or scientific backgrounds. I don’t think most commenters are being snarky. They’ve been there before and done it themselves and have great advice to offer. They want to help. And when your readers get concerned about something like your drinking while breastfeeding, and offer statistical evidence that it can be problematic, it might be helpful to read them, let them sink in, and take a deep breath before responding.

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58 JessicaE September 25, 2012 at 1:36 pm

I agree with this very tactful comment.

After 5 years of blogging you must be aware of some of the consequences of putting the details of your life on the internet. This is a topic that is obviously of high importance to many of your readers and very debatable depending on who you ask; it even varies from doctor to doctor and LC to LC. Of course you can only do what’s best for you, but I think it’s unfair to expect there to be no controversy or difference in opinion over a controversial subject.

You have said in the past that you welcome dissenting comments as long as they are polite and not mean/snarky… so while I understand feeling defensive when your abilities as a mom are being questioned, its been your choice to put it out there. You can’t be surprised that people have very different opinions when it comes to BF and drinking… and responding defensively with lots of exclamation marks and a “JEEZ, DUH” tone to the comment just comes across off-putting and unprofessional. I would never be able to do what you do; I don’t want the whole internet judging me and my actions. So if it is bothering you to the degree that you can’t allow debate/opinions about it, perhaps just leave it off the blog.

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59 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 2:31 pm

I haven’t said “geez, duh” kind of comments Jessica. And for the sake of discussion I’ve let on quite a number of dissenting comments that were not necessarily attacking ME per my comment policy. I’m not sure of the different between clarification and defensive responses, but I’ve felt the need to respond to some of these to explain.

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60 JessicaE September 25, 2012 at 2:40 pm

My apologies…Your comment that included “For the 100th time” felt that way to me personally. I can only go on what I read.

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61 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm

OK, well I apologize for that one

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62 Hannah September 26, 2012 at 10:50 pm

In my humble opinion, I do not know Kath, but I believe it’s a lot for Kath to share all that she does in her life in her blog here online, more than “most”. I understand some are trying to learn, but please try not to judge. She tries to answer questions, and you know she is not a doctor/medical professional. I don’t believe Kath is trying to be defensive, but realistically, she can only have her beliefs and little family questioned so many times before a little impatience creeps in! We all would react that way….or WORSE!
:) Look at the sunshine, and smell the roses…Or better yet, stop for a minute, and look at how cute Mazen is!

63 Emmy September 27, 2012 at 7:22 pm

I’m not so sure an apology is really deserved, especially to Anna’s comment – which to me sounded more judgmental than anything else. You write very clearly in your posts that you take SIPS, TASTES, etc Now, if people can’t be bothered to read the whole post before jumping to conclusions, or bothering to read through the comments where you’ve addressed the same concern/question for the hundredth time, I can’t blame you for being a bit more forceful in your replies. I don’t think you’ve ever been rude or defensive in those replies either. But if I get frustrated with reading the same question over and over again, I can only imagine what you’re feeling over there. I think Hannah’s comment said it best – for those getting uppity about the beer, just focus on the pictures of Mazen! He’s pretty damn cute!

64 Christina @ The Beautiful Balance September 24, 2012 at 11:11 am

I LOVE pumpkin beer, one of my favorite things about fall. Well, pumpkin anything really. Toss little faces are so amazing, he is going to have such a spunky personality.

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65 Jen September 24, 2012 at 11:22 am

I used a similar carrier/wrap with my baby and loved it! I look forward to your review on the baby site. However, it’s a wrap and not a sling (those two things are very different) and as opposed to the sling, the baby should always be upright. You seem to wear him sideways a lot, or at the very least on a diagonal. Just thought I’d pass that tip along, especially for all the other mamas who read your blog and might thing that’s the proper way to wear him.

This is straight from the Boba site: “IMPORTANT: All babies MUST be carried in an upright, completely vertical position, facing the wearer (ABSOLUTELY NO CRADLE OR OTHER HORIZONTAL POSITIONS. NEVER FACE YOUR BABY FORWARD).”

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66 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 1:28 pm

Thanks Jen. His head is just turned to the side in the photos above his body is vertical – the directions also say not to have their head pressed into your chest. And in the couch photo I am in the process of taking him out to nurse – he was definitely not riding up that high/cross like that. I hope other moms read their own directions so I don’t have to explain every photo I take to clarify : )

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67 Jen September 24, 2012 at 2:00 pm

You did receive a sponsorship from Boba and I’d imagine they would like you to be a good example and use it correctly. Matt is wearing him correctly in the photos above and his head is not facing Matt’s chest. He is not vertical in the pictures where you are wearing him.

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68 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 2:13 pm

I think you are taking vertical a little too literally – it is so they can safely breathe and in contrast to horizontal. He can obviously safely breathe very well.

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69 Jen September 24, 2012 at 3:53 pm

It’s not just for his breathing. The reason they have to be vertical when they are that small is because their legs need to be froggy style up against you, the two pieces of fabric come down and make an X that is suppose to cover his froggy legs, bum and back holding each of his shoulders in place and supporting his bum. Then the wide front bit is pulled up to his shoulders to hold him in place.

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70 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 3:58 pm

That’s how he has been – feet are in fetal/frog position and I’m using the X straps properly. I’ve studied both the website and safety guide quite a few times.

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71 Hilary September 24, 2012 at 7:28 pm

Hi Kath,

I think Jen brings up some important points- I’m afraid that you are showing improper usage of the Boba. I’m sure you don’t mean to but with a lot of people visiting your site I’m worried that the wrong message is being sent. Maybe you could add some captions to clarify going forward?

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72 Shannon September 24, 2012 at 11:27 am

you are the prettiest mom! and your baby is too cute!

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73 Tazneen September 24, 2012 at 11:27 am

Hi ,
Let me start by saying I absolutely love your blog. It`s the first thing I check when I get on the internet and I`m always impressed by the high quality of your blog. Also congratulations on the baby. He`s adorable. But like one of the reader above me I was surprised to see you tasting alcohol . Especially since I followed you through your pregnancy and admired how diligent you were about not exposing your baby to any alcohol. So I did a quick search to see if I was wrong. This is an excerpt from the mayo clinic by the Mayo Clinic obstetrician and medical editor-in-chief Roger W. Harms, M.D.

Feeding and alcohol don’t mix well. There’s no level of alcohol in breast milk that’s considered safe for a baby to drink.

When you drink alcohol, it passes into your breast milk at concentrations similar to those found in your bloodstream. Although a breast-fed baby is exposed to just a fraction of the alcohol his or her mother drinks, a newborn eliminates alcohol from his or her body at only half the rate of an adult.

Research suggests that breast-fed babies who are exposed to one drink a day may have impaired motor development and that alcohol can cause changes in sleep patterns.

In addition, while folklore says that drinking alcohol improves milk production, studies show that alcohol actually decreases milk production and that the presence of alcohol in breast milk causes babies to drink about 20 percent less.

If you choose to drink, avoid breast-feeding until alcohol has completely cleared your breast milk. This typically takes two to three hours for 12 ounces (340 grams) of 5 percent beer, 5 ounces (142 grams) of 11 percent wine or 1.5 ounces (43 grams) of 40 percent liquor, depending on your body weight.

Remember, breast-feeding is the optimal way to feed a newborn and is recommended until a baby is age 1. If you choose to drink, plan carefully to avoid exposing your baby to alcohol.

Hope this helps :) Enjoy the rest of your day.

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74 Claire September 24, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Thank you SO much for posting this! Like I mentioned in my earlier comment, then though I had heard you can have a small amount of alcohol to drink while nursing I never felt comfortable doing it, even though other moms and my lactation consultant told me it was okay. And especially in the beginning I was so nervous because my newborn nursed so frequently I never thought I’d have time for the alcohol to clear my system. I’m so glad that I trusted my instincts and didn’t drink and nurse!

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75 colleen September 24, 2012 at 2:42 pm

I am also glad you posted this, it has been the one thing that has been bothering me. I love reading the blog and love getting ideas for healthy meals but it just seems so counter intuitive to be drinking any alcohol with a new baby. I may be biased as my Father died from cirrhosis of the liver, that was not from drinking. (he worked for a chemical packing plant for 30 yrs) After seeing what he went through ,I am just extra care any and all kinds of chemicals including alcohol.

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76 Stephanie September 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Kath, you have such a gorgeous wee one! I hope you will take Tazneen’s advice to heart or at least do some further research into this matter.

Kellymom is a great resource for many breastfeeding topics, including consuming alcohol while nursing. This page has many facts and links to research: http://kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed/lifestyle/alcohol/ I know based on your RD and love of science that you will appreciate going beyond just hearsay or ‘mom advice’.

Something to consider that is mentioned in an article linked on that page (the Social Drugs article), is that infants less than 3 months old are particularly vulnerable to the negative effects of alcohol, even when the mother is consuming in moderation (I.e. one drink a day/ every other day). It can also decrease milk supply and cause wakefulness in infants (see Manella, 2005 on http://www.health-e-learning.com/resources/articles/40-social-drugs-and-breastfeeding).

Ps- I just recently found your blog and this is my first comment. Looking forward to reading and commenting more :)

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77 Helen September 25, 2012 at 4:52 am

I really do think that cutting out the alcohol will help Maze settle better! You have been drinking just about every day. That’s a LOT of alcohol for a little guy to handle. You could also try cutting out dairy, I know all my kids were super fussy until I cut out dairy and then they were fine. Try keeping a track of how he reacts to what you eat/drink…for me coffee and dairy were off limits because it upset their wee tummies so much! I personally didn’t drink while breastfeeding but reading the studies above I’d have to say alcohol probably has the same effect! I have breastfed four children now including twins very successfully until they were all over a year old, it was worth giving up a few indulgences (like cheese! Oh how I missed it! Haha) until they were old enough to not react so badly to my own diet. Just a thought! PS Mazen is so cute!

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78 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 5:52 am

The fussing is likely developmental… all the books have predicted it perfectly. And you make it sound like ive been a drunkard! I haven’t even been pleasantly buzzed.

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79 Jen September 25, 2012 at 7:04 am

I just wanted to say that I do agree about the dairy….maybe experiment…it really does bother a lot of babies and all little babes deserves a settled and non-inflamed digestive system :)

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80 Claire September 25, 2012 at 7:18 am

Well, looking back over your posts from the past two or three weeks since Mazen has been born, you’ve had a drink almost every day, something like 10 or 11 times I think. Kellymom.com says “Daily consumption of alcohol has been shown in the research to increase the risk for slow weight gain in the infant.” and “Daily consumption of alcohol (1+ drinks daily) has been associated with a decrease in gross motor development” http://kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed/lifestyle/alcohol/
I don’t think anyone is saying that you’re a bad mom, and I can’t imagine how hard it must be to decide to post about being a new mom every day to such a huge audience, since a big part of being a new mom is making mistakes and figuring out what do to. But since you do have such a large audience, and readers that look to you as such a great example of healthy living, I think it would be important to you to make sure the information you give out about what is healthy as a breastfeeding mom is factual.

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81 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 7:45 am

He has gained weight faster than expected and I have had NO more than one a day

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82 Claire September 25, 2012 at 8:08 am

Wow, more than one a day? More drinks than you show in your posts??? Even though is he gaining weight okay, do you really want to risk gross motor delay, not to mention potential damage to his small delicate liver? Per the same Kellymom.com webpage “Many experts recommend against drinking more than 1-2 drinks per week.”

Keep this in mind (also from the same website): “A newborn has a very immature liver, so minute amounts of alcohol would be more of a burden. Up until around 3 months of age, infants detoxify alcohol at around half the rate of an adult. An older baby or toddler can metabolize the alcohol more quickly.”
And from what you’ve posted, you’re not waiting a few hours to nurse after having a drink.

If you are really having “more than one a day” as you said in your comment, you may want to really reassess your drinking, you are really risking hurting Mazen! :(

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83 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 8:43 am

NO more than one a day!!!!!! TYPO!

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84 jane September 25, 2012 at 10:45 am

wowsers-people need to chill! maybe they need a drink ;-) my sister is a pediatric nurse and always has a small glass of wine with dinner before feeding her one year old. he is FINE!

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85 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 10:46 am

Haha

86 Anna September 25, 2012 at 7:28 am

Kath, you drink frequently! You couldn’t even wait to get home from hospital before you “needed” a drink!! You only show us a small amount, but it seems to be often! I think it is more than reasonable that people are concerned! I worry about Mazen’s brain development. It really is a LOT of alcohol for a tiny baby to be exposed to!

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87 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 7:46 am

Lots of people celebrate a birth with champagne

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88 Anna September 25, 2012 at 7:25 am

Thank you for posting this! This is the most sensible comment/post I have read on this blog regarding alcohol and breastfeeding!

I have breastfed 3 babies, for 2+ years for each baby, which meant that for almost 7 continuous years (I breastfed through pregnancies) I didn’t have a single drink!!

If you choose to breastfeed your baby, please drink responsibly… which ultimately means don’t drink, especially in the early days when breastfeeding is around the clock!

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89 Anna @ On Anna's Plate September 25, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Wow– I’d love to get the addresses of all of these mothers who haven’t had a SINGLE DRINK!!!!!! while pregnant or breastfeeding so that I can mail you the medal that you so obviously deserve.

Geez– just back off. Every new mother makes different choices, and the choices are simply endless. What foods are you going to eat? Are you going to drink caffeine? Will you smoke? Will you drink? When will you choose to take your baby out? Will you work or stay home?

Seriously, the choices are endless, and daily (sometimes hourly), and berating another mother for making a choice that you yourself have not personally made is just pointless. If you think that having a daily drink while breastfeeding is dangerous, then DON’T DO IT. Period. Don’t come on someone else’s blog and leave comment after comment attacking them because the choice they’ve made is different from your own.

If you think that Kath is really putting her child in danger, call the Child Protective Services of Charlottesville. Tell them that a new mother is DARING to take five sips of beer over the course of an evening. Allow the people in charge to deal with what is so obviously a case of neglect and abuse.

Or just listen as they laugh, tell you to get a life, and hang up the phone.

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90 Rachel Miller September 26, 2012 at 11:55 pm

Well said! My gosh ladies BACK OFF! You are kidding yourselves if you think Kath has a drinking problem!

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91 emily September 24, 2012 at 11:39 am

Apple cheddar scuffin, pumpkin beer, and a cute baby?! This post is making me green with envy!

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92 Megan September 24, 2012 at 11:41 am

Excited to see your mention of our favorite RVA brewery, Hardywood Park! You and the family should come to town for one of their many fabulous events – always great food, music and fabulous local beer! (www.hardywood.com)

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93 jen September 24, 2012 at 12:01 pm

What is it about the dads with babes in arms getting so much attention? My hubs and I had the same experience. I’d hold the babe while we shopped – no big deal – but as son as he had her in his arms, in the baby carrier, or even in the shopping cart by himself for goodness sake – the two of them became complete rock stars! I just keep wondering if it’s because people still aren’t fully used to seeing a dad so involved? Who knows, but my hub loved the rockstar treatment! Hope Matt’s enjoying it too!

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94 nicole September 24, 2012 at 12:09 pm

When I worked for WIC as a breastfeeding peer helper I told moms 1 beer= 1 hour before you should nurse again. I wouldn’t worry about tiny sips. It goes into the breastmilk in small amounts but it’s not like it’s going to turn from milk to beer.

Practice walking and breastfeeding! It’s not too hard once you get the hang of it. I seriously love that wrap and I am constantly talking myself out of going to buy one! I have a ring sling but it’s so bulky sometimes.

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95 Kerry @ Totes My Oats September 24, 2012 at 12:15 pm

That food looks so yummy, especially for being free! Beer tasting is so much fun!!

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96 Liz @ Tip Top Shape September 24, 2012 at 12:26 pm

This post just kept getting more and more exciting as I read on! lol That beer festival looks fantastic! I wish there was something like that out by me!

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97 Alisha @ Alisha's Appetite September 24, 2012 at 12:39 pm

I love how happy you look! You are seriously glowing :)

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98 Jenica September 24, 2012 at 12:45 pm

Gosh, Mazen is just getting cuter every day. Glad the beer tasting was fun!

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99 ES September 24, 2012 at 12:59 pm

As someone who breastfed for 14 months and loves cocktail hour as much as you do, I did a LOT of research on this subject before I had my son.

I think the majority of what you say is 100% correct. That if you are fine to drive, you are fine to breastfeed and that the amount that gets into your breastmilk is very miniscule.

I did want to add two things, however:

1. At this age, when their development is so very rapid and their systems so fragile, we really have no idea how alcohol can affect their tiny livers. I understand the temptation, but you have to admit it’s a bit of guesswork, that you can’t be SURE that none of the alcohol you are drinking will be ingested by your son, especially when feeding is so unpredictable. I didn’t have a drink until my son was 9 weeks and sleeping a consistent 8 hour stretch. I had a few drinks at a wedding, and even then, I brought a few bags of backup milk, just in case. I’m not saying this to be a martyr, far from it… we all have to make our own choices and no one is perfect, but might I suggest pumping and giving him a bottle before you head out to beerfest or have a drink next time? Around 3 weeks is when I first introduced a bottle.

2. While I love love love kelly mom and my LC as much as any breastfeeding mama, it’s important to know that, like doctors, they also have an agenda, and that agenda is to get you to breastfeed as long as possible. I think they will tell you anything is fine, within reason, because they presume the adverse affects do not outweigh the positive affects of breastmilk. For example, 7 months after my son was born, I had an appendectomy. I was given medicine and my doctor told me I had to wait 48 hours to breastfeed again… the LC told me I was fine to go right away. I chose to believe somewhere in the middle.

Again, I think we all make the decisions that are best for us as mamas, but I think you have to exercise a little caution when you have such a wide audience.

Thanks for letting me comment!

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100 Nicole September 24, 2012 at 1:06 pm

ath you’re such an amazing lady! I find myself on your blog often, looking for a little motivation to get out of my house and LIVE! Our baby is 11 days old today and I feel so stuck at home – I just feel like the second we step outside he’ll want to feed for 40mins or need a diaper change or I’ll be exhausted and need a nap. We’ve been out a few times, but I’m definitely not back into any normal routine and I craaave it! Here’s to mastering the Moby wrap today and attempting a walk in the neighborhood. thanks for the motivation kick! Mazen is such a joy, congrats!!

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101 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 1:10 pm

I feel the same way… Just bring your feeding supplies! Definitely easier said than done…

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102 Sarah September 25, 2012 at 11:56 pm

Good luck getting out and about with your little one. I sometimes went to places like Starbucks when my daughter was tiny and I needed to get out. Sometimes she liked the background noise and slept well, and other times I felt like I was just nursing and changing diapers in a different venue than usual :) but it did help to get out. And it does get easier. 11 days is still really new!!

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103 Khushboo September 24, 2012 at 1:06 pm

Love how out and about you both ate with Maze!

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104 Lisa September 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm

You’re doing great! Nursing on the go is so easy once you get the hang of it. :)

Oh, and I wanted to tell you that I finally tried overnight oats and WOW! I love it! It didn’t really appeal to me for a while but I thought I’d give it a try. Interestingly, as much as I love it, oatmeal doesn’t always agree with my tummy. However the soaked overnight oats left me feeling great! Do you think it was because they soaked overnight?

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105 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 1:16 pm

Could be!

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106 Katie@Real Food Katie's Way September 24, 2012 at 1:29 pm

You guys are so blessed to have people bring you meals so often during this transitional time…it must make life a bit easier!

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107 Annette @FitnessPerks September 24, 2012 at 1:31 pm

I think that scuffin looks awesome!

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108 Lindsey September 24, 2012 at 1:34 pm

I think you guys are doing a fantastic job with baby Mazen! I love that you’re out and about, not afraid to breastfeed in public, and enjoying time as a new family! Don’t let people make you feel guilty for having a beer or a glass of wine… YOU are Mazen’s mommy, and YOU get to make the decisions. They can do whatever they want when it concerns their own child. We all know you would never do anything that would harm him. And a happy relaxed Momma makes for a happy relaxed baby!! Keep up the great work!

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109 Danielle September 24, 2012 at 4:34 pm

I love your comment Lindsey. I was reading all of the above comments and thinking of how to respond. You are begin so open with your life and there are so many judgemental people, I don’t know how you do it. And Lindsey is right, you are Mazen’s mom and can make your own decisions and others should respect that. I have about 3 weeks left to go and hope I can be as relaxed and “go with the flow” as you seem to be. =)

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110 Brianne September 24, 2012 at 9:45 pm

It’s generally accepted that you should not drink 2-3 hours before nursing your baby, so why wouldn’t other commenters try to change her mind about the decisions Kath is making? You can do what ever you want with your own child but if it could potentially be affecting the baby’s heath why wouldn’t you try to help out.

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111 Lindsey September 25, 2012 at 9:18 am

I sincerely think she is doing a great job. I don’t agree that mazen’s health is in any danger–quite the contrary. They are obviously loving parents, we know he is going to be well fed (with real food :)) I think new mom’s have enough to worry about, and don’t need the added stress of everyone trying to tell them they’re doing this or that wrong. We need to support each other, not belittle.

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112 Amelia September 24, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Maze has already changed so much…what a darling!

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113 Michelle (Peachy Palate) September 24, 2012 at 1:52 pm

You have it all planned out, so many people sit at home with new babies, afraid to leave the house, you’ve so much get up and go, good woman!!! :)

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114 Katie September 24, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Pasta looks delicious. I wish my husband like squash – he hates it and I love it. I guess I could make some on the side and just stir it into my pasta. I’m curious if you and Matt always eat the same meals? I feel like I’m always cooking two things because my husband needs more substantial meals than I do and he eats more meat! It gets annoying. :)

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115 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 2:13 pm

We do : )

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116 Aja September 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm

The brunch and pasta look delish!
I think that nursing in public is completely fine, especially with a cover. I don’t think anyone should have a problem with it. It’s completely natural. One lady did nurse in the middle of a play my fiance was in about 2 years ago, though, and didn’t have a cover and one of the actors completely forgot his lines because he was so shocked. He was an older fellow, though, so I don’t know what was going through his head.

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117 Lisa September 24, 2012 at 3:03 pm

I never use a nursing cover but most people don’t even realize I am nursing. I have had several men think the baby was sleeping in my arms. ;)

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118 Danyel September 24, 2012 at 2:51 pm

I think you are doing an awesome job being a new mom!!!!! I also think its great that you checked with lactation consultants before you drank and breastfed, just to make sure that it was okay. It shows that you are being very responsible and that you little man is you number one priority! Keep up the awesome post! They save me while I am here at work! I need a I LOVE KERF!!!!! shirt!!! : )

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119 Mari @ Wine Required September 24, 2012 at 3:08 pm

My hubby used to love to carry our son in the baby wrap. He would get a lot of attention from mostly women. I got a huge kick out of it. That Beer Festival looks amazing.

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120 Ingrid September 24, 2012 at 4:09 pm

I remember giggling happily as a newlywed every time I said “my husband”, I can not imagine how amazing it must feel to say “my son/our son”!. He is darling, Kath!!

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121 Ellen @ Wannabe Health Nut September 24, 2012 at 4:25 pm

I’m experiencing 50 Shades of Food Envy right now! Ha! Everything looks so good and of course Maze is looking cuter than ever. :)

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122 Natalie @ Free Range Human September 24, 2012 at 5:53 pm

That pasta looks amazing! Yay for good friends!

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123 kate September 24, 2012 at 6:06 pm

have Matt spread-out the material of the wrap over your shoulder, it won’t make much difference now, but when he is heavier it will disperse the weight over your shoulders and it won’t dig in.

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124 Katy September 24, 2012 at 6:17 pm

Looks like such a fun festival! I have always wanted to attend a beer festival. I love that having a new baby doesn’t slow you down!

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125 jenna k September 24, 2012 at 6:54 pm

i am SO impressed at how you guys are adapting your lives to include your now larger family. it’s honestly the first time i’ve been able to see having a child as something that adds to your life instead of taking away (not sure i want kids, obviously). your posts these days are just beautiful, even when you guys had a frustrating night.

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126 Katie @ Talk Less, Say More September 24, 2012 at 7:14 pm

That “I love beer” button is awesome!! Especially on the baby wrap ;)

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127 Sabrina September 24, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Babies in carriers are so cute. I still use my sling sometimes to side carry R when my arms are tired from his weight. It was definitely one of the best investments we made.

PS- You are Mazen’s mother and of course you know best, but please make a better informed decision about the drinking thing. Please consider testing out those alcohol strips to learn where your tolerance is right now. I felt fine after 3 oz of beer/wine in the first few months, but the alcohol strips showed that my breastmilk was not safe for R to drink. Just 3 oz over 2 hours! I was shocked since I never thought such a small amount of alcohol would have such a strong effect on my milk. I hated advice from other mothers when I first became a mom, but over time I learned to appreciate the advice because now and again someone has something helpful to share. I hope you consider this one of the good things and try it out.

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128 Carli September 24, 2012 at 8:11 pm

I’ve never had a scuffin before. I’m not even sure what it is but it looks real good. I love that pick of Maze with Maze sticking out his tongue. Too cute!

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129 Fitbabe September 24, 2012 at 9:05 pm

Hello Kath..I have been quietly following you for several years…just want to say how much I enjoy your blog and congrats on the beautiful baby boy!

Deanna

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130 KathEats September 24, 2012 at 9:39 pm

Thanks!

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131 Vidya September 25, 2012 at 12:05 am

Kath I simply don’t know what to say!! You research well, you might know better! Take good care of that precious lil one. I know how you treasure him. So make him your tip most priority.

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132 Vidya September 25, 2012 at 12:07 am

*top*

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133 JoJo September 25, 2012 at 12:16 am

I love that you are going out with your baby to places. It’s too easy to end up staying home when you have a little one.. He is adorable in the carrier!

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134 Sarah September 25, 2012 at 12:35 am

It’s so interesting to me that people love to cast the first stone– I can guarantee not one of those commenting ate as healthily or were as active as you were during your pregnancy, amazing. But since we all love to judge- I am a maternity nurse and it has been rather well documented and I advise all my patients to abstain from drinking 2 hours before nursing and If possible – completely. Again- we can not be perfect and you are so healthy in so many other ways – but- if you could alter this without much effort- perhaps it would be worth it to you? Perhaps not— we re all just human at the end of the day!

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135 Anna September 25, 2012 at 7:39 am

I’ve spoken up on this because I did not drink at all for the 7 continuous years that I was pregnant and/or breastfeeding.

I had hyperemesis during my pregnancies, so no, I was not as healthy or active as Kath during those 3 x 9 month stints, however, what I did eat, was good food, and I was as active as possible. Alcohol was a complete no-go zone.

It took a little self control, but it was a decision I made in the best interests of my children.

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136 Vidya September 28, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Very well put! Totally agree with what you said.

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137 Kim September 25, 2012 at 5:41 am

Wouldn’t hurt to get your pediatrician’s take on minimal alcohol consumption, as it sounds like you’ve taken most of your advice from the LC.
Once my doc illustrated the effects of alcohol on breastfeeding a newborn, I stopped the baby sips. Not worth it.

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138 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 5:49 am

I have, she gave me the same answer of moderation

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139 Crystal September 25, 2012 at 5:43 am

I LOVE all your oatmeal recipes and just logged in to find one and saw you had your baby! I must admit that I knew when I saw you having a couple of sips and carrying your baby that in today’s climate you’d get a plethora of comments. Let’s just say as a 55 year old mom who’s daughter just scored a 34 on the ACT and is going to college on a full ride scholarship, she slept on her stomach (gasp) and I drank a beer or glass of wine every day WHILE I was nursing her. How did she ever survive?! Maze has got 2 great parents! Enjoy! You’ll be sending him off to college (sniff) before you know it!

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140 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 5:49 am

Haha… thanks :) I remember those ACT days…. 34 is grest!

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141 Fran@ Broken Cookies Don't Count September 25, 2012 at 6:06 am

Looks like a fun time!! The scuffins sound yummy!!

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142 Molly @ RDexposed September 25, 2012 at 7:25 am

Yay for baby’s first beer fest! Interesting to see other beer fest tasting glasses. This year my boyfriend’s beer fest used 13 oz tulip glass glasses for VIP. So nice!
I really want to try that doppelbock, too!

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143 Julia September 25, 2012 at 7:37 am

the american academy of pediatrics recommends not breastfeeding for two hours after even “a single, small celebratory drink’” and just generally not drinking because alcohol is concentrated in the breastmilk and can inhibit letdown.

just fyi

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144 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 8:01 am

But..” The American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Drugs considers alcohol compatible with breastfeeding.”

the research varies depending on who you ask. Just like with alcohol and pregnancy, parties are going to side with conservative views to protect liability and discourage giving “permission” for binge drinking. Women all over the world drink in moderation while breastfeeding and have for centuries (and while pregnant, although that to me is much more serious) . People are a lot more willing to share their honest experiences in person than they are on the internet out in public statements.

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145 Ann September 25, 2012 at 8:12 am

But why would you take the risk with your brand new baby? Is drinking really worth it? Not trying to be mean, but I really wonder why a drink would be worth a possible risk to your baby. I understand wanting a celebratory drink but almost daily drinking? Seems a little excessive especially since you are nursing.

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146 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 8:40 am

Because I do not feel that the amount I have consumed is risky

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147 Ann September 25, 2012 at 8:48 am

But you can’t be sure it isn’t effecting (or won’t effect) Mazen. At such a young age and an unknown eating schedule it seems like the safest route would be to avoid alcohol as much as possible. It is your life and your baby, but as a mom of 2 who has nursed both for a year, I felt like I had to say something. Best of luck to you. I know being a new mom is tough and definitely a learning experience. Heck, even being a “veteran” mom is tough and a learning experience! :)

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148 Claire September 25, 2012 at 8:17 am

But if opinions vary, WHY would you choose to go with the riskiest behavior instead of a more moderate approach? Is drinking alcohol so frequently (and then breastfeeding immediately afterwards) really that important to you?
“Women all over the world drink in moderation while breastfeeding and have for centuries” – well, women all over the world and for centuries haven’t used car seats, or gotten proper prenatal care, and many other harmful activities, and look at the repercussions! Just because lots of people do it doesn’t mean that it isn’t harmful. And for something SO optional, a complete indulgence, I just can’t imagine that it’s worth the risk. If you really can’t stand the thought of not having a drink almost every single night, you may want to reassess your priorities.
I’ve only had one a half a beer in almost two years (9 months of pregnancy and 10 months of nursing) and although it’s a bummer (my husband is also an amazing home brewer), I think my daughter’s health, no matter how remote the risk, is more important than a drink.

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149 Alissa September 25, 2012 at 9:33 am

I think it would be much different if Kath WEREN’T informed, but she’s obviously done her research and made her choice based on what she and Matt are comfortable with and what she believes is best for her and Mazen. Believe me, I am the first to comment and challenge her on some of the things she writes but I just don’t think this is one of those things. I’m truly surprised at how much judgement and criticism there’s been on this blog regarding this topic! Research and recommendations vary by provider and source and it’s up to us as parents to take that information and decide what sits best with us. I don’t see her tossing them back like she’s at a frat party or anything, nor do I think she should have to defend every single post where she mentions (an extremely conservative amount of) alcohol consumption. I can think of plenty of other things about this blog that might inspire more productive conversation, like: Are whole grains REALLY a healthy foundation for a human’s diet (once they’re weaned from the high alcohol content breastmilk, of course)? To me that’s a lot more questionable than if a couple of sips of wine before I breastfeed will permanently harm my child…I truly think if Kath felt she were endangering Mazen she would abstain completely.

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150 Christy September 25, 2012 at 11:59 am

So with this logic, we can say that Kath is informed and just doesn’t care that there may be minimal effects to Mazen and his newborn system. As an adult with minor liver damage (not due to alcohol but now I have to watch every sip), I would not want to start my child’s life out with even the thought of minor damage or making his system work over time to filter out alcohol because I couldn’t resist. I just don’t understand. I adore your blog and have gotten more than one great idea from it. But this, I just can’t handle.

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151 Jessica September 25, 2012 at 1:03 pm

I’m sorry. I just have to chime in… I’ve been following you for several years and this is the first comment I’ve ever left. Yes, Kath, you’ve done your research. But if you look long enough or ask enough people, you will get the answers you want to hear. Sure, 9 out of 10 pediatricians might not recommend it, but 1 will. Just because you find a few people to back up your claims doesn’t mean it’s the best choice for such a tiny new life.

I agree with what a lot of the commenters are saying here. The truth is no one knows how harmful just 1 drink (or less) is to a baby. So why risk it? You say it’s not risky, but you truly don’t know.

This has absolutely nothing to do with attacking you personally. But you have to realize how much influence you have on your audience, and not everyone has done as much research as you to make an informed decision for themselves. You portray yourself as someone who is extremely concerned with health, and you’re basically telling your entire audience that it’s ok to drink while breastfeeding (in moderation, if you mention that in the particular post). I wouldn’t want that type of responsibility placed on my shoulders.

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152 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 2:36 pm

While I understand the fact that many readers might consider me a role model, I really haven’t ever said “do what I do” or “everything I do is right” or anything of the sort. This is a food and lifestyle blog that reflects my personal life. I am under the school of thought that readers have to be responsible for their own actions.

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153 Mary September 25, 2012 at 8:59 am

Totally understand now why you decided to stop the BabyKerf blog once you had Mazen! You’re doing an awesome job – keep up the good work. I’ve been reading for a while and just recently saw the movie “Forks over Knives” and read part of the China Study – wondering your thoughts, as a RD, on these if you have read or seen any part of them.

Thanks!

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154 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 9:18 am

I think it’s a bit extremest – I agree that plant-based is best and consuming moderate to low amounts of meat is best, but I don’t think it’s a necessary requirement to cut out ALL animal products because they (humanely raised / pastured / wild salmon ) are packed with good nutrition

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155 Mary September 25, 2012 at 9:31 am

That’s how I feel too – we’ve definitely cut back on the meat (to twice a month or so) and dairy but haven’t completely cut it out. Thanks for responding!

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156 Mo September 25, 2012 at 9:31 am

Wow, can’t believe all the opinionated commenters regarding the alcohol and BF. I Bf both my babies and always enjoyed a nightly glass of wine. Both have gained weight just fine and are ahead of all developmental milestones. Please don’t let these judgmental commenters effect your decisions – you are doing great!

PS- the quantities you have had don’t even appear to be a full “one” serving. Enjoy!

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157 KImberly September 25, 2012 at 11:22 am

Not trying to be “opinionated” which is why I didn’t comment here originally. But I personally know someone who followed her doctor’s recommendations on this subject and drank very little, but now is being told that her son’s heart condition and developmental delays are very likely the result of this drinking. (Her son is 12 now, so perhaps the recommendations were different when he was a baby). I know many people drink while breastfeeding (or pregnant) and have perfectly healthy babies, but I’ll admit that it is hard to see others do it when you know someone who wasn’t so lucky.

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158 Tonya September 25, 2012 at 9:38 am

Maze is one cutie patootie!

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159 tarynkay September 25, 2012 at 10:13 am

Have you heard of Malta? I love the taste of beer and this has been a great alternative for me. Goya makes it- it’s a non-alcoholic beverage that tastes a lot like beer and is wonderful for breastfeeding (the barley and hops help w/ milk production, w/o the detrimental effects that alcohol can have on supply): http://www.goya.com/english/product_subcategory/Beverages/Malta

Grocery stores usually have it in the Mexican-foods aisle. Anyhow, I love it and I thought you might enjoy it as an alternative, too.

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160 Andie September 25, 2012 at 10:35 am

I love you. Just be you.
-Andie

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161 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 10:36 am

: )

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162 Aimee September 25, 2012 at 12:43 pm

I am obsessed w/ the idea of those scuffins. I commented last time you had one too! Can you describe the texture and flavor? Is it crumbly like a scone or more tender like a muffin? Are the apple chunks pretty hefty? Is it more savory or sweet? Mostly I would really just pay you $10 to ship me one, haha!

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163 KathEats September 25, 2012 at 12:46 pm

They are a complete cross between!! More tender than crumbly, but a bit crumbly. My new favorite here is more biscuit like. More savory than sweet, but apples make it sweet naturally. Hope you can visit Cville sometime and try one out!

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164 Angela September 25, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Long time reader, but first or maybe second time commenter. It is fascinating to see all the different opinions people have about alcohol consumption and breastfeeding. I just want to say that I think you have a terrific blog and appreciate your point of view of trying to live a healthy lifestyle and now trying to live a healthy lifestyle while being a new mom. When it comes to parenting, everyone seems to be the expert:) But it really is up to the individual(s) on how to raise a baby. Best of luck to you in your new role as mommy!

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165 Kylene September 25, 2012 at 8:02 pm

Well said Angela-I couldn’t agree more.

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166 Perfectly September 25, 2012 at 5:02 pm

I actually like your blog even though I don’t eat the way you do. I think you look good postpartum, the baby is precious, and for some reason I like Karen. But I too am puzzled by breast feeding and drinking. That is just odd to me. You gave it up for 9 months, presumably. Can’t you just wait it out to be safe?

And yes, I am a non-drinker, which I guess explains my position on this.

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167 Kimmy September 25, 2012 at 11:52 pm

Mazen is just beautiful. You make the choices that are right for you. I sometimes wonder if these issues are regional. I live in the northeast, and would have to say that most of my mom friends have been told by their doctors and LC’s that a drink can actually help with milk production and feeding in general because it relaxes the mother. As someone who is 28 weeks along, it’s been fascinating to watch the discussion. Mazes is one lucky boy to have such fabulous parents… Good luck to you!

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168 Sarah September 26, 2012 at 12:10 am

This is a response to all the comments about alcohol consumption while breastfeeding – I have no idea how to fit it into the many threads above, so I’ll just put here. It is interesting that this is such a hot button issue in our culture. There are so many things most of us do in our daily lives that are so much more risky than consuming a very conservative amount of alcohol (with food, even)! Does anyone tell new mothers to avoid taking car trips unless absolutely vitally important due to the risk of an accident, or exposure to air pollution, or whatever else? No. We use car seats, exercise reasonable care, and live our lives. So kudos to you, Kath, for educating yourself and making reasonable, informed decisions about alcohol consumption, too.

(And yes, I’m a nursing mom who is not opposed to a small glass of beer or wine with dinner most nights, but I’d like to hope that even if I wasn’t, I’d be open-minded about this topic.)

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169 Mo September 26, 2012 at 8:42 am

Well said Sarah!

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170 Seth Waite @ DrVita Vitamins September 26, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Love the squash addition to your pasta. It looks scrumptious. What a busy but delicious day!

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171 Christine September 30, 2012 at 11:11 am

Kath, I am dying to try that bourbon beer – speaking of, you MUST try Kentucky Bourbon Ale if you like that.. it is sooo delicious.

PS. Maze looks like such a cool guy with his “I <3 beer" sticker" – good for you guys for not "sheltering" him too much. I have friends that won't leave the house for MONTHS after having a baby.. and make everyone obsessively hand sanitize when visiting.

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